The Scene That Didn't Quite Work

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Re: The Scene That Didn't Quite Work

Post by cory » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:21 am

The scene that didn't work for me was at Eli apartment when Oskar becomes upset over Eli giving him money. There should have been more anger and frustration on Eli part like in the book.

I wish there was more overall dialog between Eli and Oskar and at least two scenes that were in the book: Attack of the Old women with the man with the black wig hallucination. (This would mean they couldn't cut the be me a little scene)And the scene when Oskar is questioning why Eli kills people.

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Re: The Scene That Didn't Quite Work

Post by ofelia » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:12 pm

cory wrote:The scene that didn't work for me was at Eli apartment when Oskar becomes upset over Eli giving him money. There should have been more anger and frustration on Eli part like in the book.

I wish there was more overall dialog between Eli and Oskar and at least two scenes that were in the book: Attack of the Old women with the man with the black wig hallucination. (This would mean they couldn't cut the be me a little scene)And the scene when Oskar is questioning why Eli kills people.
I also thought there was a lot of conflict between Eli and Oskar in the book that was left out in the film, how Oskar really had a hard time accepting what Eli is. The scene with the black egg in the film didn't really go anywhere.

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Re: The Scene That Didn't Quite Work

Post by drakkar » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:54 pm

ofelia wrote:The scene with the black egg in the film didn't really go anywhere.
The symbolism is strong. The egg is Eli, and the core is (a heart of) gold.
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Re: The Scene That Didn't Quite Work

Post by TigerEyes » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:05 pm

drakkar wrote:
ofelia wrote:The scene with the black egg in the film didn't really go anywhere.
The symbolism is strong. The egg is Eli, and the core is (a heart of) gold.
i agree. It's a symbol. I think it means that Eli has built a shell around him and until Oskar has came into Eli's life, the eggs falls apart and in he core is Eli's true self; Elias.
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Re: The Scene That Didn't Quite Work

Post by drakkar » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:15 pm

TigerEyes wrote:i agree. It's a symbol. I think it means that Eli has built a shell around him and until Oskar has came into Eli's life, the eggs falls apart and in he core is Eli's true self; Elias.
Even better. Only that Oskar hardly learned about the "detail" Elias until the be me a little scene. But Eli lets Oskar in (through the glass door) and a little later this is symbolised with the egg. And behind lurks wolfies Tale told by hands
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Re: The Scene That Didn't Quite Work

Post by TΛPETRVE » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:16 pm

As I stated numerous times, I don't have any problem with the scar scene. The background gets lost in translation, yes, but no matter if you know the novel or not - you can easily recognize that there's something gone horribly wrong between Eli's legs. Emasculation or rape, it's a sign of strong sexual abuse and as such has left a nasty mark on Eli's soul. That's all you need to know, in my opinion
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Re: The Scene That Didn't Quite Work

Post by ofelia » Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:14 pm

TigerEyes wrote:
drakkar wrote:
ofelia wrote:The scene with the black egg in the film didn't really go anywhere.
The symbolism is strong. The egg is Eli, and the core is (a heart of) gold.
i agree. It's a symbol. I think it means that Eli has built a shell around him and until Oskar has came into Eli's life, the eggs falls apart and in he core is Eli's true self; Elias.
Okay, but I meant in terms of dialogue. I read somewhere else on here that the original script was about twice as long and they had to cut half of it. I think a little too much was cut... During the conversation I was expecting more of a reaction from Oskar. You can't really tell what makes him suddenly act cold and say "I'd like to go home now if you'll let me." In the book the scene makes sense, you get how frustrated he is about Eli lying to him. Of course some of it was in his head, but they still could have added a little bit more to that scene.

The 'coming out of my shell' can also apply to Oskar, I think.

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Re: The Scene That Didn't Quite Work

Post by cory » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:23 pm

The only problem I have with the scar scene is that it wasent explored more as an issue between Oskar and Eli. When I first saw this scene I didn't understand its meaning in till I read about the character on line. The more I read about Eli the more I wanted to know about this complex character.

Let the right one in is a fantastic movie. But I wish the director went further with Eli as a character. I understand you can't make a novel into a movie or else you will have a 4 hour film. But there was plenty of room for more scenes and dialogue between Oskar and Eli. Hell the Dark Knight was close to 3 hours. And I don't see why if the director was worried about money he could still do more scenes for a later director cut.

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Re: The Scene That Didn't Quite Work

Post by danielma » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:57 am

cory wrote:The scene that didn't work for me was at Eli apartment when Oskar becomes upset over Eli giving him money. There should have been more anger and frustration on Eli part like in the book.

I wish there was more overall dialog between Eli and Oskar and at least two scenes that were in the book: Attack of the Old women with the man with the black wig hallucination. (This would mean they couldn't cut the be me a little scene)And the scene when Oskar is questioning why Eli kills people.
I never really thought it was the money that bothered Oskar rather the putting together the fact of where the money came from...it seemed (and maybe someone who speaks Swedish can clarify this for me) that the emphasis was more so on the "you stole this from the people you killed" line]

It felt more to me that it was Oskar connecting the dots and realizing where the money came from that tipped him over the edge...
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