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a warning to single people...

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:58 pm
by joshpaid
i've been single for almost 6 years now, i haven't had a serious relationship since i was 25, and now 31 is only a few weeks away. this 6 year span of loneliness never once affected me until the moment i watched this movie. Oskar and Eli's relationship is so moving that the past 6 years just caught up with me and crushed me. this movie shone a mirror upon me, and unlike Eli, there was no reflection. those 2 kids made me realize just how much is missing from my life. if you have a partner, i imagine this movie just makes you appreciate them more. Have any other single people felt this crushing loneliness after viewing this movie, or am i just unusual?

Re: a warning to single people...

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:28 pm
by TΛPETRVE
Nope, you're not. But it was only a brief moment of hesitation until that void was quickly filled with a deep, warm sense of satisfaction.

Being the walking disaster area that I am, I've been single for over 4 years now. Years back, I heavily injured and almost murdered my ex-gf and since that day, I keep my friends at a distance and the mere thought of a relationship as far away as possible.

Re: a warning to single people...

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:52 pm
by kirkesque
The title of your thread makes it seem far more ominous than it is.

I've been happily single most of my life. Even when clawing blindly in the dark of a well of sorrows, I never despaired just because I was single (might've despaired for other reasons, but not merely that one). I think society places far more emphasis on being in a relationship than it should—that most people would rather be with anybody than with a particular someone. Likewise, some people in a relationship never fully commit just in case someone "better" come along.

All that said, I first saw the film between the breakup and the divorce in a seriously fucked up marriage. I found Oskar and Eli's story to be one of reassurance. An uplifting, hopeful story. Perhaps not the same uplifting as Princess Bride or Shawshank Redemption, but uplifting still. Proof that sex is not love. The latest Hollywood starlet or stud is not love. Love is love. (Sex is great, but it is not love, despite the easy confusion many people—myself included—have fallen for.)

In the thread on here, At what point did you love the movie, the Bedroom Scene is often mentioned. That's a scene of such deep and conflicting emotions (beautifully portrayed), that shows a tender sensuality that is far more noble than any boob-shot humping scene that many movies pass off as "romance." Sex scenes in films are rarely integral to the narrative/plot of a film (I can think of perhaps only two that fit the bill) except to titillate a certain audience demographic. The resonance this scene in particular strikes with so many of us is perhaps an indication that it is that sensuality we long for rather than something more easily defined.

To directly address your question, I don't think you are unusual at all in feeling lonely after seeing a love story. It's very common. But I think perhaps you may want to examine in yourself why you feel that loneliness at merely being alone. Being with someone else is not ever gong to be genuine happiness. Only we make ourselves happy on an emotional, spiritual, lasting level. The If only... syndrome is a downward spiral of further misery, just as the regret of I should have... casts a pallor over everything we do, think, and say. Don't should've all over yourself. Don't get caught in a fingertrap of If onlys... There is no Jerry MacGuire "you complete me" perfect relationship. (What? We're all half-people looking for our other half to become whole? Heh. You've got to be whole to be holy. And, no religion involved, Love is a Holy thing.)

Maybe all this sounds like existential crap—and it may well be. But as long as you are miserable, what have you got to lose by attempting to focus your energies on something other than your self-misery? If not, well, after a time, for many people, misery becomes a safe cocoon of comfortable reliability... I'm so sad and miserable, nobody loves me... And in fact then, you seem like a sad and miserable wretch. Who wants to love someone like that? Another sad and miserable wretch? That's a dysfunction waiting to breed something worse. But then, a lot of people like being miserable with another.

There's no easy answer for loneliness. It's just something you've got to work out on your own. Maybe finding somebody will make you happy. To me, I'd be sad in thinking I cannot be happy without relying on someone/something else. Sounds like addiction. Sounds like some junkies I knew in Seattle.

Take anything you find helpful from this little rant and dispose of the rest...

I still get lonely and depressed. But I recognize those times as part of a whole. I go with it. I write. I listen to music that makes me feel better. Bob Marley, Beethoven. I watch genuinely hopeful films. I take my camera outside and find images waiting for me to commemorate them. So it goes. I keep on living.

It beats the alternative.


"Believe it if you need it, if you don't just pass it on."

Re: a warning to single people...

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:58 am
by Hume
When I feel this way I think of Bukowski.
Oh Yes
there are are worse things than
being alone
but it often takes decades
to realize this
and most often
when you do
it's too late
and there's nothing worse
than
too late.

Re: a warning to single people...

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:14 am
by sweetgirl
I should be lucky im young !
okay okay im lucky :lol:

Im so sorry that your lonely really D;
such a sad story

Re: a warning to single people...

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:08 am
by Lacenaire
Personally I don't know anyone better advice than the one given here:

Re: a warning to single people...

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:34 am
by EEA
The movie made me feel how lonely Eli and Oskar are and when they find each other it gave me hope that their type of love does existI. I think that a relationship is based on knowing that you love that other person because you are able to share your happiness with them.

Re: a warning to single people...

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:45 pm
by Wolfchild
joshpaid wrote:Have any other single people felt this crushing loneliness after viewing this movie, or am i just unusual?
This film is an excellent portrayal of at least two different circumstances of crushing loneliness, and you don't have to be single for LTROI to make you feel its weight. However, it also carries with it the message that love is neither made possible nor prevented by external circumstance. Oskar and Eli each found love because they were open to it, almost in defiance of their respective circumstances. This, I believe, is what Tomas meant when he uttered my favorite quote about this film:
The film suggests that love is possible and everybody has a choice and the one character that does not have a choice is the vampire [Eli] because she has to kill to survive. I would say that the brighter side of this dark story is that yes you can choose love, just turn your head, it's possible. Even in the darkest times you can still choose love.

Re: a warning to single people...

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:44 pm
by TΛPETRVE
That is, unless love chooses you first :D (In terms of Eli).

Re: a warning to single people...

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:45 pm
by joshpaid
i appreciate everyone's responses, you guys are great, and believe me, ordinarily i can accept my solitude. but, after viewing this movie, i just had this overwhelming urge for a girl that i could just sit in the snow and solve a rubik's cube with. or just exchange dark, regretful secrets. in fact, i relayed that bit of information to a friend of mine, and was met with a blank stare. i need some romance, dog gonnit!