To Receive a Kiss

a_contemplative_life · Post by **a_contemplative_life** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:44 am

Was watching the kiss scene that followed Lacke's death today and couldn't help but wonder whether, had I been Oskar,* I would've been as comfortable as he appeared to be with all the blood around Eli's mouth. I think at that age, I would've freaked out a bit. I hate to admit it, because it's such a touching thing to watch on the screen, but I'm trying to be honest. Anyone else feel that they'd have been just a wee bit uncomfortable?

* I realize that "had I been Oskar" is an inherently ambiguous phrase, so in the interest of casting as wide a net as possible, feel free to interpret it however you want.

Just-James · Post by **Just-James** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:49 am

I think freaked out pretty much sums up what Oskar is at that moment. He just witnessed Eli's life being very much in danger, His own part in responding to that danger, the graphic result of Eli defending herself. All of this has left Oskar I think kind of frozen.

So while the kiss is very touching and heart felt on Eli's part I dont think Oskar even realizes the blood, he's lost in that 1000 yard stare of a person who has seen too much to fast for there mind to process it.

Nicro · Post by **Nicro** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:03 am

Just-James wrote: So while the kiss is very touching and heart felt on Eli's part I dont think Oskar even realizes the blood, he's lost in that 1000 yard stare of a person who has seen too much to fast for there mind to process it.

Yeah he probably didn't even realize the blood after everything else that just happened. I probably wouldn't either after seeing all that.

But, just to say without the other factors, if the blood would freak me out....I honestly am not sure.

rgh · Post by **rgh** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:34 am

I'm not really sure how I, as Oskar, would have reacted. The thing that keeps coming up in my mind are the diseases that can be transmitted by blood. That would freak me out more so than the blood itself. Of course, in '81 HIV was not well known to the general public and I don't think getting sick by blood contact was an immediate concern for most, especially for a 12 year old boy.

I also agree that Oskar was in a state of shock at that point and Eli could have shown her wings and not really phased him.

ZWD40 · Post by **ZWD40** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:43 am

I would be grossed out, excited and freaked out, had my best friend not just violently killed a person a few paces behind me
Not counting the fact that she just kissed me with the very same bloody mouth she used to kill with
I think his reaction(or lack thereof) is normal for most people. Too overwhelmed for words, thoughts and actions

PeteMork · Post by **PeteMork** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:29 am

I'm not sure I'd even be able to get past the smell of all that blood spattered on the walls, floor, door, and Eli. Having just witnessed the only violent death I had ever seen in person, complete with sound effects and neighbors pounding on the ceiling, I'm not sure I would have any cognitive abilities left to notice that I was kissing a bloody mouth.

But if I loved Eli as much as Oskar did, (In other words, if I were Oskar) I don't think it would matter in the midst of all that carnage.

I'd do it without hesitation.

bore · Post by **bore** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:37 am

Hmm... this thread got me thinking..

After the "be me for a while" scene Oskar knew what it was to be Eli. He had after all gone through the same things.
Oskar knew exactly how it was to be turned into a vampire, to feel the pain of the burning sun and probably also what the thirst for blood felt like.
Even if he didn't like the blood I think that he had some time to think through what dinner was like for Eli.

sauvin · Post by **sauvin** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:52 am

I think maybe Oskar had been overwhelmed and was blocking out the memory of what he's just seen, and ignoring the blood.

Ash · Post by **Ash** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:42 am

sauvin wrote:I think maybe Oskar had been overwhelmed and was blocking out the memory of what he's just seen, and ignoring the blood.

Yes. I think that was the case.
For a couple who never did anything sexual (?), that was one damn good pash!

ayaparis · Post by **ayaparis** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:34 pm

a_contemplative_life wrote:Was watching the kiss scene that followed Lacke's death today and couldn't help but wonder whether, had I been Oskar,* I would've been as comfortable as he appeared to be with all the blood around Eli's mouth. I think at that age, I would've freaked out a bit. I hate to admit it, because it's such a touching thing to watch on the screen, but I'm trying to be honest. Anyone else feel that they'd have been just a wee bit uncomfortable? ...

IMO from my experience saying goodbye to close friends you wouldn't think of anything else at the moment of goodbyes but the sad thought of never seeing them again.

I think at this moment, Oskar was more overwhelmed by the fact that Eli has to leave after the event. Yes he had just experienced witnessing somebody dying but I think he would at least be prepared for that thanks to his violent fantasies. But somebody who you really connect to that's leaving would be devastating. A lot of thoughts and emotions are running through his head, so I don't think the blood would make any difference to his feelings with the kiss. Except maybe for the taste.

And I just wanted to say that, Oskar crying on that window is heartbreaking.

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