pristidae wrote:Very nice analysis with beautiful graphics. A few thoughts:
1) I interpreted the scene as indicating that Eli didn't go for Jimmy first -- if she had dispatched him first, his hand would have presumably relaxed, or at least moved, right? Maybe it was first-come, first served . . . Conny first, then Eli grabs Martin as he runs past; or did Eli fly in and latch directly onto Martin after crashing in?
2) I assumed Martin stopped kicking during dragging because Eli had either killed or disabled him mid-flight.
This is what I meant by "convinced".
3) I thought it unrealistic that Eli wouldn't have rescued Oskar first, but from a suspense standpoint, waiting to kill Jimmy last made the scene ridiculously stressful the first time I watched LTROI. Though, it was admittedly unrealistic that Jimmy, seeing Martin and presumably Conny get mauled, would've kept holding Oskar underwater until his head was later launched across the pool.
This for me was one of the keys to the scene: Jimmy didn't really have to hold Oskar down. Oskar was passively resigned to his fate. Even after Jimmy's arm came off Oskar did not move to the surface. This is also why it made sense to me that Jimmy's arm or hand did not move in death: Oskar was not fighting it. He was not putting any pressure on Jimmy's grip. Thus Jimmy's muscles could have relaxed in death but still not move.
But all of it could only work if Jimmy was killed first and before he could realize that anything was going on. His hand never
Also, I think that most - if not all - of the screaming that is heard from underwater is Andreas. The screams are unbroken and uninterrupted. They can't have been Conny or Jimmy, because they were killed where they were when the whole thing started. This implies that they both got killed quickly before they had a chance to move. The screams continue while Martin was being dragged down the side of the pool. The only one who went unmolested to scream like that is Andreas. I can see him just sitting there frozen in terror screaming like a little girl.