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"Oskar at 40" Thread/Story

Post by a_contemplative_life » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:07 am

I would like to bump the "Oskar at 40" thread/story by Sauvin but I cannot find the thread. If anyone can find it and bump it, I would appreciate it. :)
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Re: "Oskar at 40" Thread/Story

Post by sauvin » Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:52 am

Whatever for? That story was downright depressing!
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Post by metoo » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:35 am

sauvin wrote:Whatever for? That story was downright depressing!
Maybe acl doesn't find the approaching winter sufficiently dull?
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Post by intrige » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:38 am

sauvin wrote:Whatever for? That story was downright depressing!
Yes I freaking despise it, it made me so sad I cried a bit, never wanna read it again!! :cry:
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Post by drakkar » Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:26 pm

I thought it was very good. But also depressing.
I never got to see the monologue in Göteborg two years ago, which had the same theme, I believe:

http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/goteborgs_ ... are-668443

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Post by a_contemplative_life » Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:56 pm

Here is the link to the thread. Many thanks to EEA for helping me find it.

To answer everyone's questions: I wanted to bump the "Oskar at 40" thread because I think it's a great story/take on one potential future for Oskar that some of the newer members might not know about but might find intriguing. Also, I wanted to re-read it and see if my reaction to it now is any different from when I first read it. ;)

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Post by metoo » Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:19 pm

drakkar wrote:Did you see it, metoo?
Nope.
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Re: "Oskar at 40" Thread/Story

Post by sauvin » Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:27 pm

a_contemplative_life wrote:Here is the link to the thread. Many thanks to EEA for helping me find it.

To answer everyone's questions: I wanted to bump the "Oskar at 40" thread because I think it's a great story/take on one potential future for Oskar that some of the newer members might not know about but might find intriguing. Also, I wanted to re-read it and see if my reaction to it now is any different from when I first read it. ;)

http://www.let-the-right-one-in.com/for ... f=12&t=964
And when you've re-read it, tell us, has the reaction you've had now resemble the reaction you remember having when you first read it?

The discussion thread was launched 6 Feb 2010, almost four years ago and about seven months before LMI hit the local Big Screens. I believe I'd known there was an upcoming American remake when I wrote "Oskar at 40", and I might even have known that Hit Girl was going to be Abby, but had known precious little else. I came back from having seen LMI with (among other impressions) a kind of sense of despair that somebody else had also seen some of the things I've seen. If one work of fiction could be said to "legitimise" another, the despair is that I'm not alone in seeing the plausibility of this kind of moral descent.

For the newer members of the board who've not read this story yet, by all means, read it if you like! - but before you do, ask yourself this: now that Oskar's bully problem has been definitively resolved, and now that he and his girlfriend are at the end of the moving serenely riding on into the sunrise.... what happens next?

Devotees of the LtODD camp need not apply. I personally haven't run across that book yet, and so haven't read the story of interest. JAL's auctorial vision and intent are fine and good (LTROI is nothing short of 'inspired' and threatens to transcend into 'genius'), but LtODD was absent when my Oskar turned 40, and the story continues to be a broad-brush outline of the culmination of one reasonably believable path down which the kids might go (well, Oskar, anyway). If LtODD is 'Canon', consider Oskar at 40 an eventuation from an alternative universe.

Some of the reactions the story garnered were... um... interesting. There were a few faces that looked like :o and :shock: and maybe a :( or three. There may even have been a :evil: There were certainly quite a few :think: but I think almost nobody was :)

One person said something like "Well, I hate to criticise you, but there's no way Oskar could become a psychopath!"

Maybe, maybe not. It might be interesting to see how new people reading it for the first time react, and now that whole bookshelves' worth of posts have been put up on the board concerning just about every little conceivable thing about Oskar and Eli explored in the time since, it might also be interesting to see how the reactions from people who'd read it four years ago might have changed.
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Re: "Oskar at 40" Thread/Story

Post by a_contemplative_life » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:48 pm

sauvin wrote:
a_contemplative_life wrote:Here is the link to the thread. Many thanks to EEA for helping me find it.

To answer everyone's questions: I wanted to bump the "Oskar at 40" thread because I think it's a great story/take on one potential future for Oskar that some of the newer members might not know about but might find intriguing. Also, I wanted to re-read it and see if my reaction to it now is any different from when I first read it. ;)

http://www.let-the-right-one-in.com/for ... f=12&t=964
And when you've re-read it, tell us, has the reaction you've had now resemble the reaction you remember having when you first read it?

The discussion thread was launched 6 Feb 2010, almost four years ago and about seven months before LMI hit the local Big Screens. I believe I'd known there was an upcoming American remake when I wrote "Oskar at 40", and I might even have known that Hit Girl was going to be Abby, but had known precious little else. I came back from having seen LMI with (among other impressions) a kind of sense of despair that somebody else had also seen some of the things I've seen. If one work of fiction could be said to "legitimise" another, the despair is that I'm not alone in seeing the plausibility of this kind of moral descent.

For the newer members of the board who've not read this story yet, by all means, read it if you like! - but before you do, ask yourself this: now that Oskar's bully problem has been definitively resolved, and now that he and his girlfriend are at the end of the moving serenely riding on into the sunrise.... what happens next?

Devotees of the LtODD camp need not apply. I personally haven't run across that book yet, and so haven't read the story of interest. JAL's auctorial vision and intent are fine and good (LTROI is nothing short of 'inspired' and threatens to transcend into 'genius'), but LtODD was absent when my Oskar turned 40, and the story continues to be a broad-brush outline of the culmination of one reasonably believable path down which the kids might go (well, Oskar, anyway). If LtODD is 'Canon', consider Oskar at 40 an eventuation from an alternative universe.

Some of the reactions the story garnered were... um... interesting. There were a few faces that looked like :o and :shock: and maybe a :( or three. There may even have been a :evil: There were certainly quite a few :think: but I think almost nobody was :)

One person said something like "Well, I hate to criticise you, but there's no way Oskar could become a psychopath!"

Maybe, maybe not. It might be interesting to see how new people reading it for the first time react, and now that whole bookshelves' worth of posts have been put up on the board concerning just about every little conceivable thing about Oskar and Eli explored in the time since, it might also be interesting to see how the reactions from people who'd read it four years ago might have changed.
Having re-read my initial posts, no, I don't think my views have changed. And to me, LMI is a complete non sequitur with regard to your story.

What I would like to see from you is something from Eli's perspective regarding her life with "Oskar at 40" as you have depicted him. That I would find very interesting. ;)
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Re: "Oskar at 40" Thread/Story

Post by EEA » Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:42 pm

I think that both Oskar and Eli from Oskar at 40, when I read it I did not feel sympathy for them. I felt that they had found what they wanted in their relationship. Eli found another caretaker and Oskar found a way to live out those fantasies that he had.
They are in a toxic relationship that reminded me about Thomas and Abby's relationship.
After reading Oskar at 40, it made me think about Owen. So I wrote Owen at 40 which was about what if Owen had never met Abby.

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