Thoughts about Let The Old Dreams Die !!!SPOILERS!!!

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Post by intrige » Mon Jan 24, 2011 9:30 pm

Yes, with few words JAL maneged to say ALOT! XD
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Post by N.R. Gasan » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:09 pm

intrige wrote:Yes, with few words JAL maneged to say ALOT! XD
Yes, he did. And I also love the ending of the story.

Since Karin didn't return by story's end, even though 2 years had passed (Stefan would have succumbed to the cancer by then), I personally conclude that they had, in fact, located and made contact with our favorite vampire couple. The question is, of course, did Eli & Oskar turn Karin & Stefan into vampires or dinner? I'll bet you can guess what I hoped happened. :mrgreen:

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Post by covenant6452 » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:36 pm

Dinner?
Personally, I can't see two very elderly ffolkes, one near death, catching or even catching up to our young vampires. Nor do I see Eli or Oskar doling out the fangs willy nilly to every dying cancer sufferer out there. Oskar was a special case, Eli's once in a (long) lifetime love.
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Post by intrige » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:03 pm

N.R. Gasan wrote: I'll bet you can guess what I hoped happened. :mrgreen:[/spoiler]
Yes I do! I hope so too :D
covenant6452 wrote:Dinner?
Personally, I can't see two very elderly ffolkes, one near death, catching or even catching up to our young vampires. Nor do I see Eli or Oskar doling out the fangs willy nilly to every dying cancer sufferer out there. Oskar was a special case, Eli's once in a (long) lifetime love.
But let's face what we know. I also have to agree with this one. (Agree?? Hhaa, you know what I mean?) I doubht strongly that Eli and Oskar would turn some old Swedish people.
"Plese Oskar, and what's your name little girl? Help us, we love each other. We have been lokking everywhere for you. Since you moved from Blackeberg , and yo...."
"Gaaaaasssspp!!!" Blood, blood, and,, .. Just by them talking Swedish, knowing where they lived and Oskars name. They would probebly freak Oskar and Eli out. And get killed. Ah, I would like to see a cute little FanFic about how Eli and Oskar see them selvs in someone elses love, And bites, (or whatever they do.)to them that infects them..:) Just a little inside wish though. ;) That and a LTROI T-shirt for my birthday XDXD And some more undelevant stuff..XD
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Post by waggy05 » Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:24 pm

Since Karin didn't return by story's end, even though 2 years had passed (Stefan would have succumbed to the cancer by then), I personally conclude that they had, in fact, located and made contact with our favorite vampire couple. The question is, of course, did Eli & Oskar turn Karin & Stefan into vampires or dinner?
I couldn't stop thinking about this after I finished reading. Stefan and Karin knew that Stefan's time was running out, did Karin come to the (im)possible conclusion that turning Stefan (and herself) into vampires would rid him of his cancer? or maybe she just wanted to try and solve her case once and for all before her husband's passing.

As for Oskar & Eli...it warms my heart to know that they're out there, now in the present time. I can't help but wonder if we will hear more about the lives of Oskar & Eli from JAL someday down the road. probably a long ways out, if it even happens.

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Post by bore » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:19 pm

waggy05 wrote:As for Oskar & Eli...it warms my heart to know that they're out there, now in the present time. I can't help but wonder if we will hear more about the lives of Oskar & Eli from JAL someday down the road. probably a long ways out, if it even happens.
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Post by rgh » Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:37 am

It definitely left me still wanting more. Maybe a more intimate perspective on at least part of the story (from Oskar's or Eli's POV) was what I longed for, although I realize that wouldn't have fit the story.

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Post by waggy05 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:37 am

...it has left me wanting more as well. but I'll be patient. these things must not be rushed :)

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Post by jonjon_z » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:18 am

Frankly I'm happy the story was left so open and I'm not sure I'd want to see closure or a finality to Oskar and Eli from JAL. To Paraphrase M. Reeves, There comes a time when a story no longer belongs to its' creator. In Let The Old Dreams Die the title says it all. JAL fulfilled his promise and, in a sense, gave us Oskar and Eli as we see fit. Whatever happens to them, in our imagination and thoughts, happens. No doubt there will be a new generation of fanfics to stir the imagination for a long time to come.
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Re: Thoughts about Let The Old Dreams Die !!!SPOILERS!!!

Post by PeteMork » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:58 am

covenant6452 wrote:Dinner?
Personally, I can't see two very elderly ffolkes, one near death, catching or even catching up to our young vampires. Nor do I see Eli or Oskar doling out the fangs willy nilly to every dying cancer sufferer out there. Oskar was a special case, Eli's once in a (long) lifetime love.
But you've got to admire them for giving it a try. :shock: And maybe Oskar and Eli will recognize kindred spirits when they see them. :think:
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