Why did Hakan grope Eli?

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Why did Hakan grope Eli?

Post by shaggles » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:31 pm

I thought of this when reading another thread. When Hakan first meets Eli he puts his hand on her thigh (or something like that.) But Hakan likes little boys not little girls. And even though Eli is really a boy he wouldn't have known that the first time he saw him. Does it make sense for him to try to grope her like that?

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Re: Why did Hakan grope Eli?

Post by God of Vampires » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:47 pm

If I have understood it correctly most pedophiles do not really limit themselves to one gender. The things they are attracted by are present in children regardless of gender. The things that make them children, not what makes them male or female. In the very first chapter we meet Håkan, it is clear that he is attracted by a little girl he passes by. While he does seem to prefer boys, he is clearly attracted to girls as well.

That is at least what I can tell from my basic knowledge in criminology and psychology. But that is just speculation, haven't studied pedophiles specificly.
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Re: Why did Hakan grope Eli?

Post by sweetgirl » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:21 am

he sicking in the book :oops:

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Re: Why did Hakan grope Eli?

Post by a_contemplative_life » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:37 am

Because Eli was beautiful and Hakan was beyond caring at that point. He'd reached the lowest rung.
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Re: Why did Hakan grope Eli?

Post by Jeannedeorleans » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:52 am

Once Law & Order SVU (yeah, I know it's frakking L&O :mrgreen: ) said preadolescence children are indifferent. They aren't developing male and female characteristic yet.
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Re: Why did Hakan grope Eli?

Post by Ash » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:22 am

a_contemplative_life wrote:Because Eli was beautiful and Hakan was beyond caring at that point. He'd reached the lowest rung.
I agree. He was drunk, disgusted in himself, and just waiting to die.
Unlike the Blakeberg rat-pack, who chose to become alcoholics, Haken, like Eli, didn't have any choice in what he was.You can't cure paedophilia any more than you can cure homosexuality or vampireism for that matter. He could control it, but by the time he met Eli, he was way past caring about the consequences of his actions. I think he would have put his hand on anyone who sat next to him in the park that night. Like hopeless drunks often do.

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Re: Why did Hakan grope Eli?

Post by Pevalwen » Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:40 pm

Hmm, a little bit off-topic but there's often a man that gets the same bus as me each morning- he wears a woolen hat, large glasses, has a round nose and carries a newspaper and black bag... I have to remind myself that Hakan is dead, let alone fictional :P I'm sure he's not a paedophile though!

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Re: Why did Hakan grope Eli?

Post by shaggles » Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:06 pm

Pevalwen wrote:Hmm, a little bit off-topic but there's often a man that gets the same bus as me each morning- he wears a woolen hat, large glasses, has a round nose and carries a newspaper and black bag... I have to remind myself that Hakan is dead, let alone fictional :P I'm sure he's not a paedophile though!
That's funny. One day last week I rode the bus to work and there was this woman carrying a glass jar which was about 1/3 filled with some amber colored liquid. I immediately thought I hope that's not acid.

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Re: Why did Hakan grope Eli?

Post by genie47 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:58 am

This would be Hakan's ultimate nightmare.
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Re: Why did Hakan grope Eli?

Post by God of Vampires » Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:42 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: . That is called karma, time the pedophiles get a taste of their own medicine :twisted: .
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