LTROI in Gay Horror Stories and Poems

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Re: LTROI in Gay Horror Stories and Poems

Post by drakkar » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:19 am

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drakkar wrote:A child asking his teacher about gay love doesnt qualify, IMO (here the author is wrong - Oskar doesnt ask the teacher about gay sex - he doesnt know what sex is).
Though the conversation is mainly about love, in context 'How do they do it?' to me is clearly asking about gay sex. Surely a Swedish boy of twelve, who we know has seen porn, would know what sex is, even if ignorant of the mechanics of homosexual sex?
A question of taste, I guess. I regard Oskar on the brink of understanding/feeling sexuality, but not quite there yet. Earlier, in the basement reading Tommy's porno magazine, Oskar had learned about sex in school, and was getting curious about it. But he didn't know what it was. Even when studying the very instructive picture of the naked girl, he couldn't spot some hole he had learned should be there. So it was curiousness rather than sexual urge.
I regard his questioning the teacher the same thing. I cannot see any sexuality in this, or real sexual urge, only eagerness to learn more. Eli had been in his bedroom several times, so I guess something was beginning to stir. Marie-Louise's answer to Oskar's question about what men do, is to explain him that love is detached from gender, even from sex (depending on how you read it - she calls it "man ingår förbund", "one makes make an alliance").

So in my world, the "Dining Horror Story"-label fits just as well on as the "Gay Horror Story". But that might be because I happen to fancy cooking and food making, and I'm not homosexual.
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Re: LTROI in Gay Horror Stories and Poems

Post by snaps » Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:24 am

a_contemplative_life wrote:Does anyone have access to the full text of this article?

http://eprints.brighton.ac.uk/8833/
You could always try mailing her directly. O.L.M.Jenzen@sussex.ac.uk

You could explain what the situation is, what this site is about, and your function. I'm sure if you emphasise that it's a non-profit cause, and that she would be properly credited, she could let you publish here. Or perhaps give you a link to a PDF file or something where she has it stored?

or else hit her up on Facebook :lol:

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Re: LTROI in Gay Horror Stories and Poems

Post by a_contemplative_life » Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:11 pm

snaps wrote:
a_contemplative_life wrote:Does anyone have access to the full text of this article?

http://eprints.brighton.ac.uk/8833/
You could always try mailing her directly. O.L.M.Jenzen@sussex.ac.uk

You could explain what the situation is, what this site is about, and your function. I'm sure if you emphasise that it's a non-profit cause, and that she would be properly credited, she could let you publish here. Or perhaps give you a link to a PDF file or something where she has it stored?

or else hit her up on Facebook :lol:
Maybe I'll try to e-mail her. It just seemed on topic to me...
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Post by lombano » Wed Nov 30, 2011 4:14 pm

Would you prefer that I do it, if you haven't already emailed her? It might help to have the request made by a fellow researcher, even if from a completely different field. In any case, it would be a good idea, as any full article wouldn't be meant for the generla public, to mention that there are board members with a professional background in film, theatre, etc, as well as some involved in the making of the film.
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Post by sauvin » Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:04 pm

lombano wrote:Would you prefer that I do it, if you haven't already emailed her? It might help to have the request made by a fellow researcher, even if from a completely different field. In any case, it would be a good idea, as any full article wouldn't be meant for the generla public, to mention that there are board members with a professional background in film, theatre, etc, as well as some involved in the making of the film.
I'd surely love to read it - the abstract looked PROMISING!
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Post by lombano » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:16 pm

I'll wait until a_c_l replies, we don't want to swamp her with emails requesting the same thing.
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Re: LTROI in Gay Horror Stories and Poems

Post by a_contemplative_life » Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:59 am

lombano wrote:I'll wait until a_c_l replies, we don't want to swamp her with emails requesting the same thing.
Okay w/me, I'm snowed at work now anyways.
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Re: LTROI in Gay Horror Stories and Poems

Post by WhiteBackground » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:22 pm

"The one with enough courage and patience to dare gaze all his life into the darkness will be the first one to see in it a glimmer of light" (c)

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Re: LTROI in Gay Horror Stories and Poems

Post by drakkar » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:26 pm

WhiteBackground wrote:There is also this: http://pittqueercinema.wordpress.com/20 ... n-in-love/
:lol: :lol:

Reminds me I must make a blog about LTROI and food - I think I'll start with:
drakkars dining blog wrote:There is no doubt that Thomas Alfredson’s 2008 film, Let the Right One In, is firmly planted within the realm of food movies.
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Re: LTROI in Gay Horror Stories and Poems

Post by sauvin » Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:52 pm

drakkar wrote:
WhiteBackground wrote:There is also this: http://pittqueercinema.wordpress.com/20 ... n-in-love/
:lol: :lol:

Reminds me I must make a blog about LTROI and food - I think I'll start with:
drakkars dining blog wrote:There is no doubt that Thomas Alfredson’s 2008 film, Let the Right One In, is firmly planted within the realm of food movies.
Food... food... blood red tomato sauce covering everything! Hot dogs dripping with lots and lots of catsup!

BaaaNNNNAAAAAANNNNaaaas!
Some_Random_Semiliterate wrote:The clip that I chose to share is the bathroom scene in which Oskar saves Eli and they share a bloody kiss over the death of a towns-person. Oskar is scared, but his love for Eli keeps him in place and focused. As we have discussed, the sexual child and the violent child are not the narratives we prefer to tell. In the clip, Oskar goes seamlessly from witnessing extreme violence to sharing an intimate kiss to playing with his toy cars. There is an element of panic for some viewers as the power of a desirous and unregulated child becomes understood.
He goes from witnessing "extreme violence" to sharing an "intimate kiss" to... playing with his toy cars? Why didn't the author mention he'd also just fled his father's house a night or two before, and had now barricaded himself in his room, ignoring his shouting and crying mother while he's "playing with his toy cars"? I guess the "symbolism" of closing all the doors, trunks and hoods was a bit too subtle.

Drakkar, this was a wonderful catch, and it's another case in point of my perception that LTROI is a Rorschach test: tell us what you see and we can tell you where your head is. This guy seems to be trying to pound a round peg into a star-shaped hole with an oversized deadblow hammer.
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