What Aspects Of Eli and Oskar Do You Relate With Most?

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What Aspects Of Eli and Oskar Do You Relate With Most?

Post by be-me-a-little » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:22 am

I was curious what aspects of Eli and Oskar's personalities do you relate with the most in your personal lives?

This is actually a tough one for me to answer right now! Must think on it and write my answer later!

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Post by gkmoberg1 » Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:30 am

Yeh - this is a good one. I'm been mulling over too for a couple days.

Well, I'm definitely an Oskar (when confused refer to avatar (plus, special forever thanks to @intrige for vid where I got this particular image!)) , so I'm leaning that way.

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Post by Elitheeternal » Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:06 am

Other than the loneliness and the romanticism, I have always felt different and alien like among my peers as I never truly fit in. I guess I can relate with Eli the most because of that.

As for Oskar, I never truly got bullied in school, because I would hit back and at times I would be the one initiating a fight if for a good reason.

Overall, the film is truly a reflection of my inner world.

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Post by Wolfchild » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:04 am

I think I can relate to, or at least admire, the way that Eli never gives up believing that he can love or be loved. He never really articulates it to Oskar or in his internal dialogue, but then what twelve year old would? Still his actions in the course of the story demonstrate it. Eli is a monster, or is at least ruled by a monster. Oskar shoved it aside with a simple stroke on the cheek. By the end of the story, Eli has remembered that he wants to be loved, that it might be possible for someone to love him, and that he wants to love someone back. The monster and its imperative for its own survival is not strong enough to stand in the way of this love.

We are all monsters. Yet somehow it is still possible that someone might love us, might accept our love. This is indeed a brave hope. For me this is the most amazing part of the human experience. Eli personifies it.
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Re: What Aspects Of Eli and Oskar Do You Relate With Most?

Post by PeteMork » Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:30 am

Wolfchild wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:04 am
I think I can relate to, or at least admire, the way that Eli never gives up believing that he can love or be loved. He never really articulates it to Oskar or in his internal dialogue, but then what twelve year old would? Still his actions in the course of the story demonstrate it. Eli is a monster, or is at least ruled by a monster. Oskar shoved it aside with a simple stroke on the cheek. By the end of the story, Eli has remembered that he wants to be loved, that it might be possible for someone to love him, and that he wants to love someone back. The monster and its imperative for its own survival is not strong enough to stand in the way of this love.

We are all monsters. Yet somehow it is still possible that someone might love us, might accept our love. This is indeed a brave hope. For me this is the most amazing part of the human experience. Eli personifies it.
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Post by dongregg » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:04 am

Being a lonely kid. I had neighbors I played with, but I was an oddball, and other kids made it obvious that I didn't fit in. An only child until about the third grade. I learned to play alone a lot. Like Oskar, books, odd interests, toy cars. Undersized and inept at a lot of kid activities--softball, marbles. Not bullied after age eight--the rage underneath my sweet demeanor was bad news for would be tormentors.

Without Eli, I could see Oskar drifting into cigarettes and alcohol, where I lived from middle school until age 40. But 40 was a long long time ago.

I've loved so many people, starting with parents and grandparents. But I'm still pretty harsh with myself. Oskar got lucky. He'll be okay.
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Post by cmfireflies » Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:20 am

Wolfchild wrote:
Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:04 am
I think I can relate to, or at least admire, the way that Eli never gives up believing that he can love or be loved. He never really articulates it to Oskar or in his internal dialogue, but then what twelve year old would? Still his actions in the course of the story demonstrate it. Eli is a monster, or is at least ruled by a monster. Oskar shoved it aside with a simple stroke on the cheek. By the end of the story, Eli has remembered that he wants to be loved, that it might be possible for someone to love him, and that he wants to love someone back. The monster and its imperative for its own survival is not strong enough to stand in the way of this love.

We are all monsters. Yet somehow it is still possible that someone might love us, might accept our love. This is indeed a brave hope. For me this is the most amazing part of the human experience. Eli personifies it.
This is great Wolfy. Well said.
"When is a monster not a monster? Oh, when you love it."

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