Owen and Abby - What Next?

[waggy05]

i like all of this agreeing & disagreeing. really makes the boards and this topic entertaining. love the different points of view, even if they're not what i choose to believe.

[ColBlair]

i like all of this agreeing & disagreeing. really makes the boards and this topic entertaining. love the different points of view, even if they're not what i choose to believe.

That's true. heck, I look at the movie as Lindqvist's story still and not Matt's or Tomas's. So in my fairytale, Owen and Abby lived together forever drinking animal blood on the beach in Maui. Soaking up the moon's rays.

[ColBlair]

Agreed...I never really got the feeling that Owen was too happy to see her at the Pool side. He tries to give of a slight smile, but it always feels when I watch that scene that Owen may have other thoughts on the mind. Like he knows what is to be asked. He does give a glint smile but it always seems overweighed by a whole bunch of other conflicting emotions.

As for Abby's selfishness. You nailed the reason as to why I hate the comic book series (Crossroads). You think she is selfish in the movie, they go the full hog with depicting her selfishness in those books.

I don't believe Abby is a sociopath, I do believe there is apart of her that cares. But the problem I have is she almost overburdened by the knowledge of her cycle and what she will ask these people to do for her. She may care, but she has no desire to change her ways. Her way of dealing is simply to move straight on, but you always get the sense from Abby that she knows that this isn't going to end well for those involed. I mean she has her eyes on Owen and is still willing to let Thomas suffer for her...your right about the selfishness

Your right her Selfishness gets in the way, and in a way it kind of makes it hard to really care about her. You get the sense she knows but at the same time has no desire to change her ways.

I will never say she is Sociopathic though.

I can understand how you feel there Dan cause it seems that Chloe and Matt were pushing that direction that Abby was just selfish and we should feel bad about it. I'm thinking ot myself, "Yeah, I should feel sorry cause she is selfish, you got to be kidding!!!!" So I chose to listen to what I think the characters are doing and not that actor's believe that they are doing. Mainly due to the fact that the author of the story didn't make Eli selfish in the first. Heck, I never thought Abby was selfish at all. I believe Thomas didn't want to be a vampire and later on he just didn't want to kill anymore. I do believe that she does care, but I don't believe Thomas was the first 10 or 12 year old kid that she met. I think there was something in the way of their relationship. I personally believe it was another caretaker, maybe a Hakan type of character. I believed that Thomas was a novel Oskar type of character. That's how I see it and still do.

Edit: Before I forget, I do believe that Thomas wasn't getting the credit that he deserved from her. That's why she touched his cheek, for she still cared for him.

[DavidZahir]

That's true. heck, I look at the movie as Lindqvist's story still and not Matt's or Tomas's. So in my fairytale, Owen and Abby lived together forever drinking animal blood on the beach in Maui. Soaking up the moon's rays.

That's sweet. In my more sugar-coated moments I imagine them as adopted by Dexter, who finds them murderers and the occasional pedophile to eat.

[ColBlair]

That's true. heck, I look at the movie as Lindqvist's story still and not Matt's or Tomas's. So in my fairytale, Owen and Abby lived together forever drinking animal blood on the beach in Maui. Soaking up the moon's rays.

That's sweet. In my more sugar-coated moments I imagine them as adopted by Dexter, who finds them murderers and the occasional pedophile to eat.

I can imagine that too.

[lombano]

I really don't see that scene witth Abby placing Thomas' hand on her cheek to be a tender scene at all.

Me neither. In fact, it is probably the single scene that makes Abby the least sympathetic for me. She looks angry, a kind of cold anger, perhaps resentment. My gut feeling was that she was angry at him for getting old.

[waggy05]

I look at the movie as Lindqvist's story still and not Matt's or Tomas's. So in my fairytale, Owen and Abby lived together forever drinking animal blood on the beach in Maui

that does sound nice. and I definitely look at LMI as JAL's base story. however, I do not see them drinking animal blood. I think it still must be human. and I see them on Kona, not Maui. haha.

[sauvin]

I really don't see that scene witth Abby placing Thomas' hand on her cheek to be a tender scene at all.

Me neither. In fact, it is probably the single scene that makes Abby the least sympathetic for me. She looks angry, a kind of cold anger, perhaps resentment. My gut feeling was that she was angry at him for getting old.

I remember only two times where touching with something like tenderness could be argued for, once in the kitchen, and once at the hospital. I don't remember Abby putting Thomas' hand on her cheek at all. What I miss?

[DavidZahir]

She only touched his face.

In fact, it is probably the single scene that makes Abby the least sympathetic for me. She looks angry, a kind of cold anger, perhaps resentment. My gut feeling was that she was angry at him for getting old.

We each see things through out own lens. I saw someone reaching out to someone who once meant a lot more than he does now, reliving a fragment of what they once had.

[danielma]

I really don't see that scene witth Abby placing Thomas' hand on her cheek to be a tender scene at all.

Me neither. In fact, it is probably the single scene that makes Abby the least sympathetic for me. She looks angry, a kind of cold anger, perhaps resentment. My gut feeling was that she was angry at him for getting old.

I remember only two times where touching with something like tenderness could be argued for, once in the kitchen, and once at the hospital. I don't remember Abby putting Thomas' hand on her cheek at all. What I miss?

Sorry...my bad I meant the fact that she puts her hand on his cheek...I got it mixed up with later on when she places Owen's hand on her cheek