Owen and Abby - What Next?

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Re: Owen and Abby - What Next?

Post by intrige » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:47 pm

I think Owen's look is more like a: "Oh.."
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Re: Owen and Abby - What Next?

Post by thestich » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:54 pm

I think Owen's look is more like a: "Oh.."
The main point is the word following Oh.. Is it Cr*p, what have I gotten myself into or something else.

I saw Oh Cr*p!
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Re: Owen and Abby - What Next?

Post by intrige » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:23 pm

More like: Oh, are you here sort of. He doesn't show joy, or fear. or, anything. Just, Oh..
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Re: Owen and Abby - What Next?

Post by ColBlair » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:51 pm

DavidZahir wrote:He seemed to enjoy their time together, after he wouldn't let her die. They smiled and kinda/sorta danced, then laughed together as she flew back to her apartment. Later that night, he snuck out to be with her and fell asleep in Abby's place. When she left, he cried.

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Re: Owen and Abby - What Next?

Post by ColBlair » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:53 pm

waggy05 wrote:there's a lot of ways to see it, we seem to all have differing views. which is great, because that makes posting on these boards interesting.
That's true.

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Re: Owen and Abby - What Next?

Post by PeteMork » Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:19 am

intrige wrote:I think Owen's look is more like a: "Oh.."
I watched this part again several times, and I think I can see the bare beginnings of a smile at the very end. Kind of like this... :)
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Re: Owen and Abby - What Next?

Post by intrige » Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:32 am

Yeah, the forum smilyes rocks :D
Owen smiles at the train, but not in the pool.. :think: At the pool he just saw a sinking head, Oskar didn't..
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Re: Owen and Abby - What Next?

Post by PeteMork » Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:06 am

intrige wrote:Yeah, the forum smilyes rocks :D
Owen smiles at the train, but not in the pool.. :think: At the pool he just saw a sinking head, Oskar didn't..
Wow! You're sure up late! You must be able to get by on very little sleep! :shock:
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Re: Owen and Abby - What Next?

Post by rgh » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:54 am

I have long believed that Owen's expression at the pool was that of fear. Viewing it again, perhaps it is more shock than anything else. Dismembered bodies around the pool, your girlfriend covered in their blood probably looking inhuman, as we have seen in the film, would have most of us in a state of shock.

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Re: Owen and Abby - What Next?

Post by danielma » Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:05 am

I'll throw my 0.02c in as to where Owen and Abby will be next. I've said it before, I'll say it again.

The whole movie heavily implies that Owen's fate is rather simple, that he will be like Thomas. That Abby has no intention of breaking her cycle. Her way of dealing is to simply move on with Owen. It implies heavily that rather than letting the right one in, she is letting the next one in.

A point that is made even clearer after the three graphic novels that I have read thus far (Let Me In: Crossroads). Which for the record, those comic books, I'm so not a fan off. I'm waiting till the fourth one gets released so I can read it. But once I have read all four of them, I can guarantee I will be here writing about them.

See here's my problem with Let Me In. For the longest time I've been trying to figure out exactly why it is that I didn't feel anything for Abby. Or why I didn't really feel that Owen ever really leaves Oppression. I've said it before, when Let Me In ends, I always get a really depressed feeling for Owen, I don't feel he is ever leaving Oppression. We've seen how Abby treats Thomas, mind you this is someone she is supposed to have cared about and yet she treats him like a Servant for most of the film. It was rather oppresive for Thomas. It almost felt that exsistent for Thomas became oppresive. As we all know, its implied heavily that Thomas was an old friend. In essence Thomas has given up so much for Abby and yet the way she treats him is really coldly. Really distant. The problem is once Abby puts Thomas out of his misery, she almost instantly gravitates to Owen. Hell even before Thomas ends up disfigured and ruined, she has her eyes on Owen. Yet she still at time is with Thomas, and she is still dependent on Thomas very much. With very little gratiude shown to Thomas for everything he has given up for her. Her way off moving on once Thomas is dead is to simply to move straight on with Owen. Its almost heavily implied in LMI that this cycle of sorts will not end. And that she really isn't changing her ways with Owen, she's just moving on to the next one.

And in essence, its here where I think Reeves and co kind of got the wrong Idea about the novel.

There is a cycle of sorts for the Eli in the novel. (S)he makes light of the fact in the novel that Hakan wasn't the first, almost implying that their have been others like Hakan who Eli has used whilst they have simealtaneously used Eli for their own desires, wants and needs. In essence Eli really is the sexually abused archetype if you will in the novel. Eli's cycle in the novel is to use people who will abuse him/her in order to gather blood. That's what the book almost implies. However for Eli, that cycle is kind of broken with the arrival of Oskar. They're both abused children who end up showing each other a sense of humanity and kindness. I don't deny that there is a cycle element in the novel. But the end of the novel sees Eli kind of breaking that cycle in his/her own emotional journey of discovering some kindness and humanity through Oskar.

There is a sense of Eli's cycle breaking at the end of the novel. And this is where I feel Reeves went in the exact oppesite direction. There reallhy isn't anything there to show us Abby breaking a cycle or discovering something new. It feels like this is almost routine for Abby.

That's where I feel Reeves kind of got the idea of the book wrong. And in some ways, I find it hard to actually care about Abby come the end of that film.
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