Why does Oskar take out his hat?

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Re: Why does Oskar take out his hat?

Post by gareth1971 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:59 am

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That looks like a bobble hat to me!

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Re: Why does Oskar take out his hat?

Post by TΛPETRVE » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:04 am

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Re: Why does Oskar take out his hat?

Post by Chimp » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:02 pm

genie47 wrote:There is another scene that bucks the "Oskar acts tough".

The basement scene. He keeps his hat on?! Not just kept his hat on but his jacket and gloves. He only takes it off when he wants to cut his hand for the blood pact. Eli on the other hand took off her outerwear including the hat, gloves and jacket.

Both are getting comfortable with each other? The basement is actually cold. Eli can't feel the cold but takes off her outerwear and Oskar keeps his outerwear because it is actually cold down there? Doesn't mind not being the tough guy here? At ease with himeself?
Kind of, feeling at ease both with himself and the presence of Eli. He doesn't have to prove himself to her anymore. When he chose not to wear a cap in the yard, he did so because he pretended to be a cold blooded killer. It was for his own sake, to feel how tough he was, without a cap and with a knife in his hand. Just how a grownup, real cool killer would have acted and looked. In school, the cool kids prefer not to wear caps, unless the cold - or the teachers - force them to.

But, just as my grandma used to say to my mother when she said her winter clothes felt ridiculous and ugly: "The cold doesn't laugh." ;)

And yes, Eli was wearing a bobble hat (an Ingemar Stenmark bobble hat in Swedish national colours on top of that). Curious word, I've never heard that one before. It's not like I'm used to discuss cold and cold weather with foreigners. :roll:

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Re: Why does Oskar take out his hat?

Post by Wolfchild » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:29 pm

genie47 wrote:Eli on the other hand took off her outerwear including the hat, gloves and jacket.
This hadn't occurred to me before. Why does Eli take off her outer wear?
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Re: Why does Oskar take out his hat?

Post by Chimp » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:40 pm

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genie47 wrote:Eli on the other hand took off her outerwear including the hat, gloves and jacket.
This hadn't occurred to me before. Why does Eli take off her outer wear?
My amateurish guess to this question would be, because it's the most natural choice for her. The outerwear was merely a disguise to blend in with other children, to not draw attention to herself. If she doesn't feel the cold, a big, clumpsy jacket would probably only feel like encumbrance if it's unneccessary and probably feel uncomfortable too. Winter clothes are not exactly legendary for their ability to make the wearer feel agile and unhindered.

As Oskar is her friend and already knows that she has "forgot" how to freeze, the disguise is both unneccessary and probably feels uncomfortable to her. She feels comfortable in his presence, nobody else but Oskar can see her, so she doesn't care about her disguise.

Also, if someone would step in and surprise them, that person would ask what they are doing there, not why she doesn't have her jacket on. Anyhow, the temperature even in an unheated basement is much warmer than the temperature outside.

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Re: Why does Oskar take out his hat?

Post by protostar_01 » Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:22 am

Chimp wrote:Speaking of wearing a cap, I found the scene where Oskar is doing his water gymnastics, and Eli is watching from the outside, wearing a cap, jacket and gloves to fit in, to be too damn cute. Who would ever think you would see a vampire in cap and gloves in a movie? :D In fact, I consider it one of the cutest scenes in the movie.
The scene was cute but also very sad. You see Eli dressing up as a kid as if to be normal yet she's standing outside looking into the pool knowing she can never be like those kids on the other side of the wall.

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Re: Why does Oskar take out his hat?

Post by kirkesque » Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:33 am

protostar_01 wrote:
Chimp wrote:Speaking of wearing a cap, I found the scene where Oskar is doing his water gymnastics, and Eli is watching from the outside, wearing a cap, jacket and gloves to fit in, to be too damn cute. Who would ever think you would see a vampire in cap and gloves in a movie? :D In fact, I consider it one of the cutest scenes in the movie.
The scene was cute but also very sad. You see Eli dressing up as a kid as if to be normal yet she's standing outside looking into the pool knowing she can never be like those kids on the other side of the wall.
That is perhaps the most melancholy scene in the film. For me, the only other one that comes close is the brief expression that passes across her face when she's in bed with Oskar and she gets a mixed look of bewilderment and placation. It's just there for a moment, but man, it tears my heart out every time.

I suppose I could chalk one up to lamentation and the other to sorrowed resignation ... but I'm not sure which emotion fits best which scene. :?:
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Re: Why does Oskar take out his hat?

Post by genie47 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:00 pm

kirkesque wrote:I suppose I could chalk one up to lamentation and the other to sorrowed resignation ... but I'm not sure which emotion fits best which scene. :?:
I can see that Eli swallows hard looking at the obviously visible neck muscles.

Remember Alfredson's "mirror image" for both Oskar and Eli. In this scene, Oskar is assured. Eli has doubt. This is what goes on in their head.

In their hearts? Oskar is happy. Happy from Eli's acceptance of his proposal. Eli is sad. Sad knowing that she will have to move eventually.
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Re: Why does Oskar take out his hat?

Post by intrige » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:39 pm

In that scene right before Oskar goes out again, hopefuly meeting "That wired girl" again. He stood in the mirror while talking to his mum. Fixing his hair a bit. Aw. And he doesn't wear a hat. Mabye because we want's to be tough, and also . Mabye wants to be a little more like Eli. If she can, I can too, just like her! Cute thoughts :)
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Re: Why does Oskar take out his hat?

Post by a_contemplative_life » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:31 pm

intrige wrote:In that scene right before Oskar goes out again, hopefuly meeting "That wired girl" again. He stood in the mirror while talking to his mum. Fixing his hair a bit. Aw. And he doesn't wear a hat. Mabye because we want's to be tough, and also . Mabye wants to be a little more like Eli. If she can, I can too, just like her! Cute thoughts :)
I always interpreted that as a small act of defiance against his mother. My kids do this all the time--tell them to do something practical, and they don't.
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