Thoughts about Let The Old Dreams Die !!!SPOILERS!!!

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Post by rgh » Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:48 am

drakkar wrote:And - I'm relieved it never came to Gasan's "Love Epithaph" and Sauvin's "Oskar at 40".
I would have been quite upset if it had turned out that way.

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Post by covenant6452 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:43 am

Well, I got my bedtime story, many thanks to drakkar! (Tack fa allt! :lol: )
What a fantastic story!
Even though they are barely mentioned, Eli and Oskar (and love) are still the driving forces of the story, bringing together Stefan and Karin.
I get a better sense from their descriptions in the photograph of just how dangerous Eli, (and now Oskar) would be if I came across them in a dark alley. The description of how they moved through the darkness in the background, the sense that they were feral predators is exactly how I imagined they would be if they were vampires together.
It is hard to put into words how it makes me feel to know that they are still out there, still together...but it is a good feeling. The next time I am walking through some European city at night with my backpack on just won't be the same...less safe maybe, and I know I will always be looking out for them.

Thank-you Mr. Lindqvist, for this awesomely ambiguous and very beautiful "ending".
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Post by a_contemplative_life » Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:19 pm

covenant6452 wrote:The next time I am walking through some European city at night with my backpack on just won't be the same...less safe maybe, and I know I will always be looking out for them.
Okay, Mr. Christensen...just remember, if you're camping out at Tyresta and you hear someone crying in the woods...stay in your tent! :lol: :twisted:
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Post by covenant6452 » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:32 pm

Okay, Mr. Christensen...just remember, if you're camping out at Tyresta and you hear someone crying in the woods...stay in your tent!
:D

Has anyone yet noticed (those lucky enough to read Swedish, or to have a friend who can read it to you :lol: ) how big a part of the story hands play in this epilogue?
Were the hands used to this effect in the original novel, or was the theme something TA and JAL introduced only in the film?
Or maybe some certain special author has high regard for a certain special canine forum moderator and his certain special essay on hands ? :think: :)
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Post by Kalmah » Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:59 pm

covenant6452 wrote: Has anyone yet noticed (those lucky enough to read Swedish, or to have a friend who can read it to you :lol: ) how big a part of the story hands play in this epilogue?
Now that you mention it, yes, they certainly do.. didn't think about that when I first read it, oh well.
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Post by intrige » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:21 pm

I have finaly lisened to he whole "Let the old drams die short story" .:D Gaah, I shall sleep well to night too :) I will also thank Drakkar big time. For helping me with the soundbook files :D

Yeah, Stefan and Karin reminds me of John and Mia :) Just like Drakkar pointed out XD
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Post by drakkar » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:34 pm

covenant6452 wrote:Has anyone yet noticed (those lucky enough to read Swedish, or to have a friend who can read it to you :lol: ) how big a part of the story hands play in this epilogue?
Were the hands used to this effect in the original novel, or was the theme something TA and JAL introduced only in the film?
Or maybe some certain special author has high regard for a certain special canine forum moderator and his certain special essay on hands ? :think: :)
You could be right! :D In LTROI JAL pays homage to "The Divine Comedy" (Dante makes a journey from hell to heaven), so he has done this before. Maybe one day we'll know?
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Post by Wolfchild » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:08 pm

a_contemplative_life wrote:Seems to me, having read the spoilers here, that Wolfie is the fan fiction author who came closest to imagining Oskar's turning as JAL did. (http://let-the-right-one-in.com/fancontent/ff/letters). Maybe there's a psychic link between JAL and him? :shock:
Don't forget - this has all been foretold. :shock:

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Post by cmfireflies » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:25 pm

Looking at this thread makes me miss Eli and Oskar. I can't wait for the English translation to come out.
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Post by moonvibe34 » Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:52 pm

Wow! A magical epilogue indeed. Experiencing the story through the account of a narrator was charming and personal. For me, the narration made it feel more "real."

JAL is brilliant! His humor, compassion, intrigue and colorful musings were all present in the story and served its purpose well. The pace of the story was just right. The tid bits about LTROI (the pool massacre info, a happy Oskar in the subway at 2 in the morning, Jocke's frozen corpse, Lacke's demise, ect...) were like bread crumbs leading down an entirely new yet familiar path. It was like following the characters down memory lane while discovering their involvement in those memories. What a trip!

As I eagerly waited for any revelation concerning Oskar and Eli I became invested in Stefan and Karin's tale, finding myself more and more concerned with their story. The way these character's lives intertwined to unwittingly reveal the fate of Oskar and Eli to the reader assembled like a fun puzzle that painted a beautiful picture of love and friendship.

The epilogue left me very satisfied with its glimpse of Oskar and Eli, inspired by Stefan and Karin's relationship and a little sad for the lonely narrator, though I suppose his philosophy on life and an encounter with a great love will sustain him.
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