Could Eli grow older? *May contain spoilers*

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Re: Could Eli grow older? *May contain spoilers*

Post by Angelmaker » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:24 pm

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Angelmaker wrote:Can Eli age? If so how?
I don't know if you've read the book or just seen the movie, but in the book it's pretty clearly stated that Eli's been in his/her present state and age for about 200 years, so based on that I'd say fat chance :D

Yeah I have read the book but in that Eli doesn't understand why he doesn't age. When talking to Oskar Eli says that he sleeps for very long periods of time and when he wakes up he is weak again. Also from what Eli says it sounds like after he was turned he pretty much had to fend for himself and learn how to survive. Only met one other during that time. I was just thinking that it could be possible that Eli could find a way to age. Maybe by not sleeping as much if there is a reason behind all of that. JAL didn't go into lots of detail, maybe because there was no need to or maybe also so that some things are possible that he doesn't know yet. When talking to Oskar Eli snapped back "have you got any better ideas!?" when Oskar asked why Eli has to kill the people. Then Eli buys blood. He hadn't done that before either so maybe it's possible that there is a way to get older too. It's a long shot but vampires aren't real anyway, in this story Eli is different from vampires in other films. I just think with good ideas and a clever story line it could be possible
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Re: Could Eli grow older? *May contain spoilers*

Post by abner_mohl » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:24 pm

Off course with the stuff they put in cattle these days and genetically modified foods, Eli feeding on people that dined on that stuff could also cause her to age.

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Re: Could Eli grow older? *May contain spoilers*

Post by Angelmaker » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:27 pm

abner_mohl wrote:That's unless Eli discovers that when vampires reach a certain age, say 250 years, then they start aging rapidly to magically catch up to Lina's age with side effects of having more feminine features.
LOL, well that's one possibilty I guess. I wouldn't have Eli with breasts though or anything, still a castrated boy but there is no reason that Eli can't have Lina's face as he gets older.
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Re: Could Eli grow older? *May contain spoilers*

Post by StefL » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:37 pm

To me it seems not aging is a common thing in vampire lore. It's present in the Twilight series as well as in Anne Rice's Lestat novels. Of course JAL has been bending other parts of the vampire lore but still it seems like something that's common among vampires, regardless of author.

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Re: Could Eli grow older? *May contain spoilers*

Post by Angelmaker » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:41 pm

StefL wrote:To me it seems not aging is a common thing in vampire lore. It's present in the Twilight series as well as in Anne Rice's Lestat novels. Of course JAL has been bending other parts of the vampire lore but still it seems like something that's common among vampires, regardless of author.

Yeah it definitely does and it plays a big part of this one too. I just think that it's not beyond possiblity that it could happen and we believe that it's a realistic way and not just a way to extend the story. Vampires aren't real but we suspend belief for the purposes of the film and book, so if it is written properly (not sure how yet) then we can suspend belief again to believe that Eli can't get older. Learns how to in some way.
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Re: Could Eli grow older? *May contain spoilers*

Post by bore » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:43 pm

Angelmaker wrote:
abner_mohl wrote:That's unless Eli discovers that when vampires reach a certain age, say 250 years, then they start aging rapidly to magically catch up to Lina's age with side effects of having more feminine features.
LOL, well that's one possibilty I guess. I wouldn't have Eli with breasts though or anything, still a castrated boy but there is no reason that Eli can't have Lina's face as he gets older.
But what is the point, really?

I mean, if Kåre and Lina would be the lead actors in a new vampire movie then there is a slight possibility that I might watch it. It doesn't really need to have anything to do with LtROI.
Where LtROI ends everything has changed, they are not staying in Blackeberg, they are no bullies and no Håkan to bring with them and their relationship has changed a lot since they first met. What would the point be in forcing them in the roles of Oskar and Eli with a crowbar? Wouldn't it work just as well with a new story?

If one just want to watch Oskar and Eli in a sequel to LtROI I think it would be more important to stay true to the story, even if that means casting new child actors in the roles. (But that might be considered a bit cruel, people are just going to compare them to Kåre and Lina. I still think that Chloe and Kodi was treated badly when they were put in a position where they had to compete with the previous performance.)
And if one just want to watch Kåre and Lina as about 12 year olds in a vampire movie then there is always the possibility to rewatch LtROI.
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Re: Could Eli grow older? *May contain spoilers*

Post by Angelmaker » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:52 pm

bore wrote:
Angelmaker wrote:
abner_mohl wrote:That's unless Eli discovers that when vampires reach a certain age, say 250 years, then they start aging rapidly to magically catch up to Lina's age with side effects of having more feminine features.
LOL, well that's one possibilty I guess. I wouldn't have Eli with breasts though or anything, still a castrated boy but there is no reason that Eli can't have Lina's face as he gets older.
But what is the point, really?

I mean, if Kåre and Lina would be the lead actors in a new vampire movie then there is a slight possibility that I might watch it. It doesn't really need to have anything to do with LtROI.
Where LtROI ends everything has changed, they are not staying in Blackeberg, they are no bullies and no Håkan to bring with them and their relationship has changed a lot since they first met. What would the point be in forcing them in the roles of Oskar and Eli with a crowbar? Wouldn't it work just as well with a new story?

If one just want to watch Oskar and Eli in a sequel to LtROI I think it would be more important to stay true to the story, even if that means casting new child actors in the roles. (But that might be considered a bit cruel, people are just going to compare them to Kåre and Lina. I still think that Chloe and Kodi was treated badly when they were put in a position where they had to compete with the previous performance.)
And if one just want to watch Kåre and Lina as about 12 year olds in a vampire movie then there is always the possibility to rewatch LtROI.
Good points. It could be done with new actors one day. The point in Eli being able to age is so he can stay with Oskar without changing him or him being a peado in a few years. I do love how the story ends on the train. It could just be left there and maybe it should but if it was to continue even if just in imagination then the key to it is Eli being able to age. I know Eli can change Kåre but I don't think that stays true to LTROI. Eli knows it's a curse and would therefore not put Oskar through it, even if it means they can stay together. Well that's what I think anyway
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Re: Could Eli grow older? *May contain spoilers*

Post by abner_mohl » Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:57 pm

If Eli did age, factor in that ]now that Let the Old Dreams Die has come out, you now have a new problem if Eli started aging: Oskar is now a vampire, u could wind up with Eli being the adult with Oskar sremaining a 12 year old.
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Re: Could Eli grow older? *May contain spoilers*

Post by Angelmaker » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:01 pm

abner_mohl wrote:If Eli did age, factor in that now that Let the Old Dreams Die has come out, Oskar is now a vampire, if Eli started aging, you could wind up with Eli being the adult with Oskar still being a 12 year old.
I haven't read that yet lol. I don't think it's in English yet.. I sort of guessed that is what happens in it though. I heard that JAL didn't use their names though, is that right? Also that it's kind of like an alternative story. I don't know as I haven't read it as yet
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Re: Could Eli grow older? *May contain spoilers*

Post by abner_mohl » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:04 pm

Haven't read it either, going by what has been discussed elsewhere on this forum, have to wait until later this year when it will be included with the English translation of JAL's Paper Walls. But since JAL wrote it, I would consider it canon.

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